"Rise of the Apes" - Planet of the Apes prequel

[bassman]

I've got say.....i've completely turned around on this. The more I see of it, the more excited I get. The CGI isn't really a worry at this point. BTW, if it hasn't been mentioned - during an "on air" interview with Weta yesterday, they revealed that the apes don't speak in this film.

[Danny]

showed it to a guy i know and he goes "but the apes where from another planet the astronauts were on, how are they on earth to begin with?". For a minute i was dumbfounded before i broke down the 1 pop culture reference more prevalent than 'luke i am your father' or the platoon guy yelling on his knees.

[BillyRay]

showed it to a guy i know and he goes "but the apes where from another planet the astronauts were on, how are they on earth to begin with?". For a minute i was dumbfounded before i broke down the 1 pop culture reference more prevalent than 'luke i am your father' or the platoon guy yelling on his knees. "You Maniac! You spoiled the whole picture! Damn You! damn you all to Hell!!!!"

[Eyebiter]

Rise of the Planet of the Apes trailer http://www.apeswillrise.com/

[Neil]

Heston was involved with the original and (against his will) in the first sequel, Beneath. How was he involved against his will? Contractual agreement or something!?

[MoonSylver]

How was he involved against his will? Contractual agreement or something!? Naw, he was captured by apes dude! Didn't you watch the movie?!? (Actually...) Spoilers of "Beneath the Planet of the Apes" to follow:   In 1969, the studio heads at Twentieth Century-Fox wanted Heston to return as the starring role in Beneath the Planet of the Apes. Heston didn't want to commit to a sequel, but agreed to make a brief appearance so long as his character was killed off early in the film. After several script drafts, it was decided that the Taylor character would function as a framing sequence for the second film. He appeared briefly in the beginning of the movie, where he falls into the Mutant trap, and returns towards the end of the film for the movie's climax. Heston donated his agreed-upon guild-minimum fee from Beneath the Planet of the Apes to his son Fraser’s school. The original storyline for Taylor was later adapted for the character of John Brent. "I felt a certain obligation to Richard Zanuck about the film. The first one had such an enormous success, both critically and commercially, and of course I was grateful for the part and the material rewards it brought me and so forth. They spoke to me, as soon as the overwhelming success of the film became evident, about a sequel, and I said, "You know, there is no sequel. There’s only the one story. You can have another picture about further adventures among the monkeys, and it can be an exciting film, but creatively there is no film." Now that comment is in no way intended, as I said to Zanuck, as a criticism of them for making it. A picture that grosses $22 million, and has the potential to be spun off into one or more sequels, obviously you have a responsibility to your stockholders, and indeed all the other movie makers on your lot who will be making films with the profits from that to make others. I think it's fruitless to compare and say which of the... successive films is the better. It's clear that, in terms of the story, the first one is all there is. Nevertheless, I felt a responsibility to Zanuck, and I said I'd be happy to do it as a friendly contribution." Planet of the Apes Wiki - Charlton Heston

[Kaos]

showed it to a guy i know and he goes "but the apes where from another planet the astronauts were on, how are they on earth to begin with?". For a minute i was dumbfounded before i broke down the 1 pop culture reference more prevalent than 'luke i am your father' or the platoon guy yelling on his knees. In the original novel,   ...the apes were on another planet. The astronaut returns to Earth to find that whatever happened on the alien ape planet happened on Earth as well. I love what Rod Serling did to make the script different from the novel. He makes M. Night look like an amateur. The ending of Burton's apes was heavily influenced by the novel, but was ultimately a failure at trying to one up Serling.

[bassman]

"Rise" Trailer Two:

[Neil]

Looks interesting... They're still not quite there with the CGI though are they... Guess another 5-10yrs maybe until photo realistic?

[bassman]

Looks interesting... They're still not quite there with the CGI though are they... Guess another 5-10yrs maybe until photo realistic? There are also a couple months left until release. Often with these CGI-heavy movies they're working on it right up until release. Green Lantern is recent proof of that. The CGI in GL's trailers improved with each trailer release.

[bassman]

International Trailer. Shorter, but more emotional.

[Neil]

+ve review! http://www.aintitcool.com/node/50671

[AcesandEights]

+ve review! http://www.aintitcool.com/node/50671 I was about to say I've been seeing the same, even saw "We Go Ape for Rise of the Planet of the Apes" or some such line on the cover of a paper when I was getting my coffee this morning....though I think it was the Daily News

[bassman]

It’s not just Caesar who is executed well here, but a whole range of apes all with their own unique personality. There’s the old Alpha Male who gives Caesar hell at first and is forced into subservience as Caesar finds his calling, the caged muscle (a tortured, pissed off gorilla which is very much a throwback to the roles of the different primates in the original series), an intelligent circus orangutan that can sign and connects with Caesar on a level the other apes can’t and a mean, half-blind scarred-up old veteran of the lab testing scene. Glad to see they're keeping the "class system" of the apes. Fans of the original will get a few nods, some careful and some eye-rolling (did we really need to have both “It’s a Madhouse! A Madhouse!” and “Get your stinking paws off me you damn dirty ape!” repeated for us?), but if you’ve never seen an Apes movie this one will play just fine. No way. That's just....ugh. You're supposed to use minor quote references. Not the one's listed on every "Best movie quote" list. I'm sure it won't be able to live up to Conquest, but i'm looking forward to this one. BTW.....it's currently sitting wit a 86% on rotten tomatoes. Wow...

[Danny]

man, everything i see looks fucking great but i cannot shake that this is going to be like 90 minutes of set up and exposition and 30 minutes of chaos at the end with a truncated finale. This series deserves more than that. I have no doubt its going to be one of the better revamps but still, i know i cant be the only one getting this vibe from the trailers.